In an entirely unsuprising moment of obtuseness, the Deputy Chief Constable of North Wales, Clive Wolfendale, has added to the national World Cup excitement by suggesting that English people carrying the English flag on their cars in Wales are behaving with discourtesy and indecency.
The Welsh police are famously inept. For example, a few years ago, during the investigation into a notorious double murder in which one body had been rolled up in a carpet the police lost the carpet. So it’s hardly suprising that now another of their number suggests something so incredibly stupid that even Welsh Nationalist politicians reject his suggestions.
Elfyn Llwyd, the Plaid Cymru parliamentary leader, said:
England are the only home nation left in the competition and while we would have wanted Wales - and Scotland and Northern Ireland - there too, I would want everyone to get behind England, as I think it would be good for the whole country, just as I believe the London Olympics will benefit us all.
“If it was the other way round, I would hope that people in England would want Wales to do well.
“Why he has made these comments, I don’t know. He has made an issue when there isn’t one.
And we could have left it there as another example of Y Plod being so politically correct they’d rather support lawbreakers than do their jobs and defend law and order, if it wasn’t for the fact that Mr Wolfendale was tapping into a violent, fascisistic streak in Welsh Nationalism that hasn’t gone away since the days when early Plaid Cymru frontman Saunders Lewis supported Hitler.
Over at the blog of Lib Dem Member of the Welsh Assembly Peter Black, you can read in comments from a Ceri Grafu the sort of tripe these extremists come out with; in this case, asserting that that it was a ‘bloody good thing‘ that a sports shop in the mid-Wales town of Aberystwyth was vandalised, putting the blame not where it lies - firmly with the Welsh-language-speaking nationalist chavs who did the vandalism - but with the sportshop for displaying the English flag in its windows just before England began its World Cup campaign. Right.
Ceri Grafu points to comments on another blog, a Welsh language blog, where this diplomatic incident is discussed. Fortunately for all of us, Welsh is such a bastardised language these days that the general sense and sometimes specific meaning of the insults and invective are discernable even to non-Welsh speakers. For example:
Nid Birmingham. Nid Chesterfield. Nid Dunnny-on-the-Wold. Aberystwyth. Yng Nghymru. Ffcn Cnts.
Wherin the geographically enlightened poster of the story points out the indisputable fact that Aberystwyth is not Birmingham, Chesterfield etc but is in fact in Wales, and calls Gilesports ‘Ffcn Cnts’. Another contributor calls them, Ffacin twats
, another says it is a Disgres
, which is the Welsh for ‘disgrace’; directly misspelt from the English. I particularly liked basdads
. Seriously, a language has to be dying, hasn’t it, if it doesn’t generate its own sweary words.
All very childish and schoolboyish until you see that these rather angry little chaps have posted on the web the name of the store manager and the telephone number and have promised to cover the shop in graffitti.
Don’t expect the police to help out here.
Update: They do things differently in Scotland:
The Scottish Commission for Racial Equality has cautioned against anti-English racism, while schoolchildren who make anti-English remarks in class have been threatened with suspension
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Very PC, Isn’t Very PC, Isn’t it?…
The Western Mail has this week run a number of articles this week highlighting a fresh wave of racism, or so it seems.
Whilst English Football fans will be allowed to sing World War II songs during the World Cup in Germany, across the pond in Wales…
I don’t particularly approve I don’t particularly approve of English fans singing ‘World War II’ songs (like what - ‘White Cliffs of Dover’?) but there’s that suggestion that English fans are ‘being allowed’ to sings songs.
Being allowed as opposed to limiting their freedom for what purpose?
I wish they were more mature I wish they were more mature
So Welsh is a poor language So Welsh is a poor language because it borrows words from another?! Stop talking nonsense, as this is true of most languages. English terms derive from Greek, Latin, Old German, French and languages from former colonies. All languages are under influence from other languages, especially those of close proximity or of global usage.
I didn’t say Welsh is a I didn’t say Welsh is a ‘poor language’ Gareth, now did I? I said, ‘basterdised’, or ‘basdardised’as you’d probably have me spell it.
I’m struck at how Welsh doesn’t seem to have a healthy vernacular. The fact supports my suspicion that the artificial maintenance provided by compulsory education in the language forced on the non-Welsh-speaking majority and through other wheezes funded from public taxation is what’s keeping the creaky old beast alive.
I notice you’ve filed this I notice you’ve filed this under “Fascism”, but I think you’re being too hard on yourself. A real Fascist would be advocating the genocide of the remaining Cymry, rather than just crowing about signs of their imminent extinction.
By the way, “bastard” and its varients have been used in Welsh since the 14th century. Presumably the lack of a good, pure, Celtic word has something to do with differences in legal systems and moral codes in those far-flung days; in other words, we didn’t need a word for bastard, until the Anglo-Saxons arrived.
(That was a joke, by the way, in case you’re thinking of selling my email address to the Daily Post.)
we didn’t need a word we didn’t need a word for bastard, until the Anglo-Saxons arrived
i think fans should sing WW2 i think fans should sing WW2 songs after wot they have caused in the pass, a simple song isnt gna kill millions of ppl!
and as for what the english wave done to us in the past, im tlkin bout all of the UK here, they ahve “raped” every country they have stepped foot in and i think wales should be independent of England!
Look, it’s the texting Look, it’s the texting generation; if I understand you correctly, you’re in favour of an independent Wales. Ok, and how do you think that would work economically, given the current substantial subvention from the rest of the UK to Wales and number of jobs in Wales relying one way or another on the public sector?